Legacy's Main Character Eliza Williams Poses Nude
I used to live down the street from a sweet returned-missionary couple whose mission was to Nauvoo. They were there when the filming was taking place.
He said that the actor playing JS was indeed gay, with his 'companion' present on the set daily. He further reports that the actress who played Eliza hates Mormons and let it be known. The reason for this, my neighbor said, was because the director (big name LDS movie director whose name I can't remember) wanted to show that the 'spirit' would prevail in spite of the feelings or lifestyle of the actors.
I will say the RM couple were wonderful, kind TBM people whom I love dearly. They were like grandparents to our kids. I have absolutely no reason to believe that he would lie. He was disgusted with the whole thing.
The LDS Church partially funds itself from sales of pornography through its Deseret Book stores. A sampling of this porno currently available (Dec 1999)and (Nov 2002) on Deseret Book store shelves is posted below. Deseret Book has no "adults only" section, so any child or adolescent has access to this
pornographic material. We will see how concerned "The Brethren" are about this situation. Is mammon more important than morals for the LDS Church? Websters Collegiate Dictionary 9th Edition defines "Pornography as -
1: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement 2: material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement."
page 166 offers a savory mix of the "shit" word and dialog between two men about a woman's illegitimate pregnancy and her future as a porn star.
page 86. "I like men. I like wine. I like sex....We can have some nice uncomplicated sex with nothing at stake."
page 103. "She likes to try different positions. Whenever she heard of a new sexual trick or an innovative device, she was eager to try it."
page 165. "Goddamn, Jesse - talk about a cock jockey."
page 176. "Whether he would sleep with Abby again was not pressing. He was after all sleeping with Marcy and at least once with Jenn. One was never sure about anything with Jenn, except that the prospect of sex with her made all other sex merely a speculative abstraction. He smiled to himself. It was easier to think calmly about sex when it was abundant."
page231. "You shut the fuck up, lady, or I'm going to come up along side your fucking head."
page 248. "Fran, we just pulled off the mother fucker of all heists, you understand."
page 258. "I'll go shoot that broad you been fucking. Which one? Jesse said.....You fuck up and she goes first."
page 107. She pulled him to bed and bit lower lip as he kissed her. She arched her back as his hands slid over he sleek body. Her moans went from soft whimpers to throaty cries of passion....After their first ograsms they lay in each others arms....she brought a silver cup of ice up and down her chest, between her full breasts and across her swollen nipples. Elektra shuddered with pleasure..."
page 114. "Pablo Greene said sourly from his seat at the table, 'Yeah, Piss and Shit.' Looking around, Ruby inquired innocently, 'Is it okay if I write that as urine and feces?'"
page 237. "Watching him go, Dan Zogaki thought, 'Christ, what a fucking bore you are, Seargant, don't hurry back!'"
page 411. "A guilty Ruby flushed, 'Oh fuck! O hate this shit.' "
page 259. "And let go of my fucking arm."
PROVO, Utah -- The video-store chain that Larry W. Peterman owned in this valley of wide streets and ubiquitous churches carried the kind of rentals found anywhere in the country -- from Disney classics to films about the sexual adventures of nurses. Peterman built a thriving business until he was charged last year with selling obscene material and faced the prospect of bankruptcy and jail.
Just before the trial, Peterman's lawyer, Randy Spencer, came up with an idea while looking out the window of the courtroom at the Provo Marriott. He sent an investigator to the hotel to make a record of all the sex films that a guest could obtain through the hotel's pay-per-view channels. He then obtained records on how much erotic fare people here were buying from their cable and satellite television providers.
As it turned out, people in Utah County, a place that often boasts of being the most conservative area in the nation, were disproportionately large consumers of the very videos that prosecutors had labeled obscene and illegal. And far more Utah County residents were getting their adult movies from the sky or cable than they were from the stores owned by Larry Peterman.
Why file criminal charges against a lone video retailer, Spencer argued, when some of the biggest corporations in America -- including a hotel chain whose board of directors includes W. Mitt Romney, president of the Salt Lake City Olympic Committee, and a satellite broadcaster heavily backed by Rupert Murdoch, chairman of News Corp. -- were selling the same product?
"I despise this stuff -- some of it is really raunchy," said Spencer, a public defender who described himself as a devout Mormon. "But the fact is that an awful lot of people here in Utah County are paying to look at porn. What that says to me is that we're normal."
It took only a few minutes for the jury to find Peterman not guilty on all charges. His case illustrates what has happened to an industry that used to be confined to the margins of commerce, in the seedy parts of most towns, run by people who never dreamed of taking their companies to Wall Street.
Spurred by changes in technology that make pornography easier to order into the home than pizza, and court decisions that offer broad legal protection, the business of selling sexual desire through images has become a $10 billion annual industry in the United States, according to Forrester Research of Cambridge, Mass., and the industry's own Securities and Exchange Commission filings.
The financial rewards are so great that some of the biggest distributors of explicit sex on film and online include the country's most recognizable corporate names.
General Motors Corp., the world's largest company, now sells more graphic sex films every year than does Larry Flynt, owner of the Hustler empire. The 8.7 million Americans who subscribe to DirecTV, a GM subsidiary, buy nearly $200 million a year in pay-per-view sex films from satellite, according to estimates provided by distributors of the films, estimates the company did not dispute.
EchoStar Communications Corp., the No. 2 satellite provider, whose chief financial backers include Murdoch, makes more money selling graphic adult films through its satellite subsidiary than Playboy, the oldest and best-known company in the sex business, does with its magazine, cable and Internet businesses combined, according to public and private revenue accounts by the companies.
AT&T Corp., the nation's biggest communications company, offers a hard-core sex channel called the Hot Network to subscribers to its broadband cable service. It also owns a company that sells sex videos to nearly a million hotel rooms. Nearly one in five of AT&T's broadband cable customers pays an average of $10 a film to see what the distributor calls "real, live all-American sex -- not simulated by actors."
For all the money being made on sex -- legally -- by mainstream corporations, the topic remains taboo outside the boardroom. The major satellite and cable companies do very little marketing of their X-rated products, and they are not mentioned in annual reports except in the vaguest of euphemisms.
None of the corporate leaders of AT&T, Time Warner, General Motors, EchoStar, Liberty Media, Marriott International, the Hilton, On Command, LodgeNet Entertainment or News Corp. -- all companies that have a big financial stake in adult films and are held by millions of shareholders -- were willing to speak publicly about the sex side of their businesses.
"How can we?" said an official at AT&T. "It's the crazy aunt in the attic. Everyone knows she's there, but you can't say anything about it."
For hotels, the sex that can be piped through television generates far more money than the beer, wine and snacks sold from the rooms' mini-bars. Just under 1.5 million hotel rooms, or about 40 percent of all rooms in the nation, are equipped with television boxes that sell the kind of films that used to be seen mostly in adults-only theaters, according to the two leading companies in the business. Based on estimates provided by the hotel industry, at least half of all guests buy these adult movies, which means that pay-per-view sex from hotel room televisions may generate about $190 million a year in sales.
At home, Americans buy or rent more than $4 billion a year worth of graphic sex videos from retail outlets and spend an additional $800 million on less explicit sexual films.
On the Internet, sex is one of the few things that prompts large numbers of people to give up their credit card numbers. According to two Web ratings services, about one in four regular Internet users, or 21 million Americans, visits one of the more than 60,000 sex sites on the Web at least once a month -- more people than go to sports or government sites.
Some of the most popular Web properties -- which feature quick links to sites labeled "Virgin Sluts" and "See Teens Have Sex" -- are owned by a publicly held company in Boulder, Colo. That company, New Frontier Media, has stock traded like any other, and it expects its video network to be in 25 million homes within a few years. It does business with several major companies, including EchoStar and In Demand, the nation's leading pay-per-view distributor, which is owned in part by AT&T, Time Warner, Advance Newhouse, Cox Communications and Comcast.
To the astonishment of Flynt, who began in the pornography business by selling poor-quality pictures of naked girls as a way to build interest in his strip clubs, his competitors in the $10 billion annual adult market are mainstream corporations whose board members are among the American business elite.
"We're in the small leagues compared to some of those companies like General Motors or AT&T," Flynt said. "But it doesn't surprise me that they got into it. I've always said that other than the desire for survival, the strongest desire we have is sex."
Distributed by The Associated Press (AP)
sung arousingly with passion to the music of Hymn #232 Let Us Oft Speak Kind Words. Elder Packer hums this hymn whenever he is tempted with impure thoughts. Anyone notice how often he's been humming lately?
Let us oft speak porn words to each other
In bed, or where'er we may be
Like the spoonings of birds on the heather
The tones will be throaty and free.
They gladden the hardon that's repining
Give courage and hope from below
And where the sheets hide the shining
Let in the burning of red hot bosom's glow.
Chorus:
Oh, the porn words we give shall in memory live and passion forever impart
Let us oft speak porn words to each other, porn words are cheap thrills of the heart.
Like the sunbeams of morn on the mountains
The soul they awake to great cheer
Like the murmur of cool pleasant fountains
They whisper in your lovers ear.
Let's oft then, in huskey toned voices
Release every sexual taboo
Til your partner "Oh God's" and rejoices
Before donning those damn garments anew.
Chorus:
Oh, the porn words we give shall in memory live and passion forever impart
Let us oft speak porn words to each other, porn words are cheap thrills of the heart.
There is certainly much that passes in human experience as lessons to the wise. There is much of human interaction that is hurtful to others - wittingly or otherwise. Circumstances in any religion will inevitably bear casualties of their faith as a consequence of human foibles and hypocracy. It is sad to see such venom arise from disillusionments better healed and forgotten. While the scenarios represented on this site may (or may not) be true, is it worth getting all worked up over human stupidity, and to defame others in malicious diatribes - or to accuse from wounds of hatred?
All people are imperfect, and most prove it regularly. We just have to do the best we can to learn to live at peace one with another, and to allow patience with others' shortcomings (and foreign beliefs) form our dealings with our fellow human beings. Nothing is really gained by venting these hateful things - even insofar as they may be true. The human body is not pornographic by nature (even undraped) - it is only when designing persons abuse it for pernicious purposes that it may become vile. Be at peace with others. Don't be so easily excited by little things. Make Loving part of your Living. Forgive the foolish, and let your heart be at rest. - 01/16/2007 - Marc
I don't see the big controversy? Not so long ago, the BYUH bookstore sold V.C. Andrews books. The are pretty soft-core when it comes to sex scenes. I know, I used to read those books. It happens some times in church bookstores. Patricia Cornwell is another one that has soft-core scenes in it. The sick thing is, that the female character in her books is over 40 and resembles the "author"!
Nuff said!! - 09/17/2006 - Jay Kamisese
well well, ive found it very funny how people talk about the church. I mean isnt it funny how this is probably the one church that people make the most fun of? and yet isnt it funny how this is the only true church? Why does it seem to me that because we are the truest church people try and i mean that they actually "waste" there time looking for things that they think can make the church look bad. Ive once heard that people only make fun of that which they dont understand, so for all you people out there pick up a B.O.M. and read, you might actually have a change of heart!, - 07/10/2005 ~brandon~
P.S. and I would be proud to even be mentioned in the same sentence as the LDS church
This site is great. Mormons at the bottom of the totem pole usually don't know most of this stuff. It's great to warn them of what's to come, so maybe they can look back and see that you tried to warn them. - 06/26/2005 - anon
02/13/2005 - anon
I for one am very glad to see these things at deseret book. Hey anything to help people to not be uptight about sex, even if they find it by accident.
12/18/2004 - from DouglasLang@comcast.net
This site is the most hate filled nit picky site I have found on the internet. You have a few books that may have crossed the book shelves at Mormon Bookstores and have suggested that the chuch knew that the curse words or suggestions of sex were in them. Then you try to lead people into thinking it was some kind of porn. As if the church can maintain reading every book that comes across the shelf. Completely silly and bias. The you precede to pick on someone who might have made some mistakes in her life by posing in films, and then you think you have the right to slam the book of judgement down on her because of your differences with the church? Please get help for this sickness of hate and biggotry. Seriously! You have the right to post this. Thank you!
01/30/2004 - anon
Great job with the site. Keep up the good work. I'd smite those dirty smut-peddlers myself, but you know... I'll just let Jihad take care of that.
08/15/2003 - Anita Walker
As far as promoting porn, seems to me this site does a fairly good job of doing it with pictures and comments on subjects in these books. Maybe you work for the authors. Perhaps you were hired to create the site so you could sell more books for them. Hmmmmm.......I'm actually more upset about the fact that there are no intellectually stimulating arguments against the church thus far. I think you just wanted to show your nudey pics to LDS people because you're an exhibitionist and it gives you some thrill to think "Ewwwww, I made those goodie goodies look at nudies." Wow, now that's a cause to live for. I'm not impressed.
05/21/2003 - anon
the best book is " Behold I come Quickly"; for sale at DeseretBook.com
05/18/2003 - anon
You have a point man. I am LDS and I think there is a lot of double standard that goes on. That's too bad.
04/18/2003 - from nsewanswers@aol.com
Does anyone buy the argument that Deseret Books is an independent company? I don't. Deseret Books is owned by Deseret Management which is owned by LDS and run by LDS leadership.
When you think about it LDS is doing the reverse of organized crime. Organized crime takes money made from sex, drugs and gambling and hides it in corporations. LDS takes money from tithes and offerings and places it in for profit businesses that sell sex, drugs, and gambling.
02/28/2003 -from Bonnie LePard
And if they didn't sell Stephen King at Deseret Book...you would be screaming "censorship" from the rooftops. Deseret Book is a corporation in business to sell at a profit. They overprice their scriptures too, if you want purity in print you get it from the Church's official distribution centers. In trying to make fun of others, you only show yourselves to be sophomoric.
01/19/2003 - from Bill Schuler, Fargo, ND
This is just a mention to those in the Morg who, because of assimilation, cannot think individually.
It is one thing to say that we are not perfect and make mistakes. But, it is another thing to claim to represent morals and values (which are paraded before the whole mankind)and, then, to portray oneself in such a manner as did Kathleen Beller in porn (something the General Authorities are quite well aware) and, then , turn around to star in a motion picuture drama promoting Mormonism public awareness. It is hypocritical and typical of the two-facedness of these shysters.
As for the Bible, I KNOW that I don't really teach that! It is nothing but a fabrication. Any true prophets would not be guilty of the scandals associated with the prophets of the Bible. You'll find Qu'ran to exonerate them of such disgraces.
So, there's no excuse for Joe Smith, Brigham Young, or any of other prolifigates for these gross immoralities. They are servants of Satan and deserve the fires of Hell for leading astray all the sheeple (dumb sheep+people=sheeple).
01/18/2003 - anon
HEY! I THINK THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GOT A SICK MIND!!! I AM A MEMBER OF THE LDS CHURCH AND AM PROUD TO BE! YOU WOULD HAVE NEVER KNOW THAT THOSE KIND OF WORDS WERE IN ANY BOOK IF YOU HAD NOT BEEN LOOKING FOR THEM. IF YOU HAVE A CLEAN MIND, YOU WOULD NOT EVEN WORRY ABOUT THIS KIND OF MESS. GET REAL!!! AND GET YOUR MINDS OUT OF THE GUTTER!! READ AND STUDY A LITTLE IN THE BIBLE. YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT JOSEPH SMITH THE PROPHET AND WOMEN. CHECK IT OUT HOW MANY WOMEN MOSES AND MOST OF THE OLDER PROHETS HAD!! IN THE BIBLE TIMES. SO WHO IS TO SAY THAT JOSEPH SMITH COULD NOT HAVE AS MANY AS HE WANTED BACK THEN.THEY SURE DON'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE WIFE NOW!!! BYE! BYE!
01/05/2003 - Quietone319@aol
I guess Satan got the best of everyone. We as LDS are not perfect, but we do try to strive to better ourselves and not constantly put others down about their short comings. I enjoyed reading the other opinions and realize that there are some books out there that I simply will not read now-THANKS! As a matter of fact there are subjects in the Bible that could be seen as unfit to read but it is still scripture and I still hold its value in my heart. To all of you I wish you a Happy New Year and happy reading good or bad its your choice. So lets choose the right CTR.
10/28/2002 - from dublan007@yahoo.com
Well I just wanted to let you all know, that I am currently a member of the LDS, but not for long, anyways. I know and have done it! YES, have done it! (got a problem with it oh well, tell someone who cares - LDS members). I am at popular demand by missionaries on their missions right now, have written me often asking them to write them erotic letters, and to tell yo the truth I am very good at writing my letters, and I am proud to write them! I like that I am able to let them feel desired and it's heathy for them to feel desire! I am glad that I am able to serve and help my fellow LDS brothers!
07/07/2002 - AJ
Do you guys really have nothing better to do than find all the books at Deseret Book that have bad material in them? Get real! No one said that any LDS person was perfect or that they hadn't made mistakes in the past- so she posed nude, big deal! And the rest of the books... I highly doubt that any bookstore can cut out every book that has material in it that is not appropriate! You people really need to get a life! And really, what does bad material in books have to do with garments, temples or Larry King live? I think you're all bitter people who need to find something better to do with your time. MOVE ON!!!
05/16/2002 - David Yeager
I like how all 5 of the pro LDS emails were signed anonymous. I remember during my forced LDS membership(forcibly brainwashed at 10years old)how it was repeatedly tought that you shouldnt by albums by people who openly used drugs or were otherwise immoral because you would be supporting them. For the individual who commented on big deal that chick appeared nude before, Your organization claims to stand for integrity(which it never has had)
What Would your non-existent Jesus Do? - CTR: Choose the Revenue.
05/05/2002 - shaunteez@hotmail.com
Very tittilating! Now the truth comes out! Kinda hard not to smear and taint the rep of THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS when they're selling nasty books. This is almost as bad as their prophet telling lies on LARRY KING LIVE. By the way, just how many gals in the congregation was the prophet Joseph porking behind Emmas back? Any of the self rightous magic underwear, secret code name/handshake crowd got the answer to that one?
02/28/2002 - anon
You have unscrupulously targeted the Latter Day Saint faith to smear and taint
their reputation with grossly misleading accusations. The LDS church is
incorporated unto itself and holds no official or unofficial jurisdiction over
outside and unaffiliated businesses; even where members of the church may hold
privileged positions. This is America - the land of the free and also the land
of capitalism. As long as Deseret Book doesn't call itself The Official
Bookstore of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a wholly owned
subsidiary, etc. etc. then they are not without the bounds of the law and may
generate and conduct business in any manner that is suitable to the business'
principals. Generally speaking, is it in the best interest of these outside
businesses to carry, advertise, solicit, or promote products that are contrary
to the teachings and doctrines of the Latter Day Saint Faith? Certainly not.
Common business sense would suggest that any business should! market
products that seem most likely to be purchased and utilized by the predominant
customer base.
06/03/2001 - anon
If you find those excerpts titillating or pornographic, you're more repressed than most good Mormons I know. If only Deseret Book would sell some Henry Miller! As far as Kathleen Beller posing nude. Big deal. Maybe if she was in a hardcore porn film we should be concerned, but don't get so uptight about nudity. Its good to see the Church relaxing a little bit, finally.
10/24/2000 - R.T.P.
WOW, Cricket!! How exactly will the TBM's deal with THIS site???! Good heavens, DON'T tell "the Bretheren" about this -- they'll never get off the Internet again: "Breasts without Jesus Jammies over 'em, WOW Elder..."
09/08/2000 - anon
I think this is absolutely terrible if it
is true that you can buy this stuff at the
Deseret Book stores!!
It should be stoped now, show it to the
Brethren, Yes?
08/23/2000 - anon
I wouldn't call any of that porn. Just bad taste and bad judgement. Perhaps those in purchasing didn't have time to read every word of every fictional book that comes recomended by the public. They hopefully are actively engaged in reading the scriptures instead. It's up to each individual to choose wisely for themselves.
08/10/2000 - anon
You folks need to be anxiously engaged in a better cause. You could, for example, learn a foreign language for your retirement-age mission in the amount of time you're spending on this exercise.:-)
12/09/1999 - Scorpio Bear
I once asked a co-worker why Deseret Book sold Stephen King books. Any movie made from a Stephen King book (not made for TV) has been rated "R." I questioned the hypocrisy. She didn't have an answer for me. I also noticed in Deseret Book one of my favorite fantasy series. I call it the Magic series because it consists of the books "Magic's Pawn," "Magic's Promise" and "Magic's Price" by Mercedes Lackey. The most powerful Herald Mage ever (and, of course, the hero of the series) Vanyel Ashkevron is out, proud and gay. Now, just what values is Deseret Book telling the youth of the church with their endorsement of this book?
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